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| tStorm | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 13/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 07 May 2012 - 15:09 Post title : My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm | | | My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm
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After failed attempts to email me at my ATT email address, Discacciati persevered and we connected using a different email address. I subsequently purchased PDR607 for 297.50 euro with 69.0 euro shipping. The package came one week after I placed the order. The machined aluminum parts are of excellent quality.
I took off the left (gear shift) side and reused the turnbuckle end connected to the gear change actuator arm. The left side went on quite easily with the footpeg now 4-1/2 in (115mm) back of the OEM position.
I took off the right (brake pedal) side and in comparing OEM to the Discacciati mid-controls found that there is no attachment for a brake pedal return (torsional) spring. Also the master cylinder had been moved 20mm outward so that the return spring didn't contact the small (clevis pin) lever arm as in the OEM part. I installed the Discacciati brake pedal even though there was no brake pedal return spring. Discacciati says that the spring inside the master cylinder is enough.
I rode the bike and having the footpegs 4-1/2 inches closer to the rider is GREAT. I sparingly used the rear brake because of the lack of a return spring. Putting the kick stand up will take some practice as the left footpeg is more in the way.
These are my observations of the right side:
The OEM control plate assembly attaches to the engine bracket. It then bends out 20mm at the footpeg attachment point to clear the alternator cover.
Discacciati uses a flat control plate assembly and uses 20mm spacers to push everything out. Their footpeg attachment point clears the alternator cover.
There are two possible solutions to attach a brake pedal return spring.
One. Three lever option. Lengthen the cylinder (which has the clevis pin lever and brake pedal turn buckle lever), at the inside end by 20mm (thereby no black 20mm spacer). Put a small spring lever arm at this end or increase the outside diameter to 45mm with a properly positioned hole to accommodate the end of the OEM spring.
Two. Two lever option. Lengthen the cylinder (which has the clevis pin lever and brake pedal turn buckle lever), between the levers by 20mm (again no black 20mm spcaer), and add a hole at the clevis pin lever (so it looks the same as the OEM). One then must make the master cylinder spacers and bolts 20mm longer so the master cylinder remains in its original location lining up with the clevis-pin/spring lever.
Discacciati makes a quality product and I recommend waiting for the version with a brake pedal return spring.
Ride safely -- tStorm
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| Thatch | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 07 May 2012 - 15:59 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tStorm) | | | Well they look great and would fit the feel of my bike but unfortunately there's no way my long legs would ever fold up enough to use those.... sadly.
Thanks for the write-up. I hope more folks take them up on these controls as they look good and I selfishly want them to make more gear for the bird.
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| CornerBanger | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,113 | | Location | : | Charleston, SC, United States |
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| | Posted : 07 May 2012 - 19:11 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tStorm) | | | Thanks for the write up. i have been looking at moving my pegs rearward. Sad they dont have the return spring...
| There are those who own and there are those who ride! 
2010 Thunderbird
2007 Kawi KX250F
2010 Kawi KX85 (My boy's ride)
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| tStorm | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 07 May 2012 - 20:02 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: CornerB | | | I'm hoping that Discacciati can make a new spacer to replace the 20mm black spacer that comes with the PDR607 foot peg kit. The present spacer is 20mm in length. 25mm outside diameter with, I think, a 16mm hole.
I'm attaching a pdf of the new spacer, measurements in mm. (Print with no scaling, it should print to scale.) Again 20mm in length. Same inside diameter. 46mm outside diameter. Added would be two 4mm diameter holes 18mm from center, 85 degrees apart. The stopped hole would take the OEM brake pedal return spring and the through hole would be used to attach to Discacciati clevis-pin lever. I would drill a hole in Discacciati's lever and pin the parts together.
I'll let you know how it works out. -- tStorm
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| Jays | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 82 | | Location | : | Nowra, NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 07 May 2012 - 20:33 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tStorm | | | So does anyone know of a system that pushes the controls away from the rider, I find being 6'2 that I have my arse in the rear of the seat! To the point that I have dislodged the pillions hold down plate off the seat 
Jays
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| Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2012 - 21:40 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tStorm | | | Hi TStorm;
Thank you for your info. I am a short rider (1,650mm tall) and looked for something like this for a long time. The Raask controls didn't convinced me. In the end I installed the floorboards which do the trick but do not look the way I want. If your controls are OK, this may be the way to go for me. Look forward to additional info. BTW, how tall are you?
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| tStorm | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 08 May 2012 - 22:53 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: Esker | | | Hi Eskerinola --
I'm 1727 mm (5'-8") tall with a 762mm (30") inseam.
Discacciati is making me a new spacer (dimensions in the pdf file).
Once I get it and attach the brake pedal return spring I'll post
how it works out.
I really like the way the bike feels with the pegs moved 115mm
(4-1/2") back. I sit more upright and in the middle of the seat
rather than up front close to the tank. That's my preference
anyway .
I'm confident it'll work out. -- tStorm
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| Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 09 May 2012 - 11:55 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tSto | | | It would be great to see a picture of the way you place your feet on the new arrangement.
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| Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 09 May 2012 - 12:06 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: Esk | | | I hate all you short fuckers...
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| fab | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 09 May 2012 - 22:27 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: Th | | |
Thatch wrote:
I hate all you short fuckers...
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keep that up and i will come over there and punch you in the knee cap
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Remember, soft cocks hang around all life long, hard ones come and go
ahh f**k im deep
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| Steve | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 480 | | Location | : | Chesham, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 09 May 2012 - 22:35 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: f | | | You can stand on my shoulders and head butt him in the groin. That'll teach him.
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| Sam77 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 469 | | Location | : | Finland |
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| | Posted : 10 May 2012 - 06:00 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: | | |
Steve wrote:
You can stand on my shoulders and head butt him in the groin. That'll teach him. |
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| Birdy68 | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2012 - 08:05 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: Th | | | Thatch wrote:
I hate all you short fuckers...
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Com'on - ya not that tall!
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| magpie | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,507 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2012 - 11:29 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: B | | |
Thatchie,
Either you're one talk fucker.....or you hang around with a few of Snow Whites dwarfs
Us Aussies are all 7 foot as well.....
Well.....maybe 2 of us.
Magpie
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| CornerBanger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 07/07/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,113 | | Location | : | Charleston, SC, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 May 2012 - 16:45 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: B | | |
Birdy68 wrote:
Thatch wrote:
I hate all you short fuckers...
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Com'on - ya not that tall!
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ANYWAYS ~ BACK ON TRACK
Regarding these Discacciati Brake System
~ before I go writing emails all-ova-shop, I was wondering if you knew if they had a European TuV Paperwork for the EC (European Community) with them?
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| There are those who own and there are those who ride!
2010 Thunderbird
2007 Kawi KX250F
2010 Kawi KX85 (My boy's ride)
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| tStorm | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 13 May 2012 - 21:22 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: Esk | | |
Hi Eskerinola --
I place my feet on the mid controls so that the boot heel is up against the foot pegs.
-- tStorm
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| Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 13 May 2012 - 21:44 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tS | | | Thank you so much tStorm. That was exactly what I was waiting for.
By the way, I am in the process of blackening my Tbird to look like a Storm. Here in Argentina we never got that model. Is the whole support of your windshield black too?
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| tStorm | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 14 May 2012 - 00:14 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: E | | | I had wrinkle black plates made to attach an R3 windshield
to the double headlight Storm but they also have attachment
holes for the Thunderbird lowers. -- tStorm
P.S. Not shown in the photos. I have black sissy bar/backrest
and luggage rack. I bent HD side plates and then used HD
products. All three bolts have Easy Brackets spools so
I can attach saddlebags on the front two OR the rear two.
I have Dynamic Clusters on the rear turn signals because
the brake light might not be seen by some trucker in a high cab
(luggage rack overhang.) The front turn signals are also LEDs.
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| Harry_Tbird | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 11 | | Location | : | Zug, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 03 Jun 2012 - 18:06 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tSto | | | Hi tStorm,
I am also considering to mount the Discacciati pegs, but am a bot sceptical because of the lack of a return spring that you menioned. In your experience does the braking pedal return at all to its position after braking? Or doe you really need those springs. Have you in the mean time received the new spacers that you ordered? Am curious to hear your opinion.
Thanks
Harry
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| tStorm | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Jun 2012 - 15:46 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: Har | | | Hi -- I received on May 29 a new black anodized spacer from Discacciati machined to my specifications.
I used the spacer to drill a 4mm diameter hole in their aluminum brake lever. I then cut off the shaft of the drill and super glued (gel) it into the spacer.
The result was I could use the original Triumph torsional brake pedal return spring.
The brake pedal works great and after a 300 mile ride everything holds together nicely.
I hope Discacciati would include in their kit this new spacer with a 4mm diameter pin.
I definitely recommend this setup for mid controls. -- tStorm
P.S. When comparing the Raask and Discacciati mid controls note that Raask has their linkage BELOW the brake pedal mount shaft and Discacciati has their linkage ABOVE the brake pedal mount shaft. This means that the Discacciati lean angle is greater than that of the Raask.
 
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| TBRider | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 21/10/2011 | | Posts | : | 834 | | Location | : | Foothills, The Mountains, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Jun 2012 - 16:23 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tS | | | Yea Discacciati is pretty keen to help out. They did some modifications on my Thruxton Brake setup for me also. They seem to be truely interested in their customers input. I've had very good results with them already.
Glad things have worked out so well for you.
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| Eskerinola | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 23/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 108 | | Location | : | Argentina |
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| | Posted : 06 Jun 2012 - 19:46 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tS | | | Hi TStorm;
Great review and contribution.
I find this kind of modification nearly essential for all short riders.
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| Harry_Tbird | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 11 | | Location | : | Zug, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 10 Jun 2012 - 21:13 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: tS | | | Hi TStorm,
Well done and thanks for sharing the information. As Discacciati has your drawings and specifications, one could ask them to produce the spacer when ordering their mid controls. Would that be ok with you?
Thanks
Harry
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| tStorm | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 23 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Jun 2012 - 22:33 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: H | | | Harry -- That would be fine with me. Or you could email them this pdf file. -- tStorm
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| Harry_Tbird | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/03/2012 | | Posts | : | 11 | | Location | : | Zug, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 19 Jun 2012 - 18:29 Post title : Re: My Review of Mid-Controls (PDR607) by Discacciati Brake Systems for Thunderbird/Storm (Re: | | | tStorm, Thanks very much, I appreciate ! Harry
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