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Posted : 13 May 2013 - 15:43   Post title : fairing and hard bags
 
As a new Thunderbird 1600 owner I am trying to find a nice fairing along with hard bags to install on my bike. I have searched the web and it seems that there is little to none actually made for this model. I read one article here about the Corbin fairing and that it had to be modified to fit and not sure that is up my alley. Does anyone know of any other models out there or are the few I see on bikes just been modified to fit?

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Posted : 13 May 2013 - 16:12   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 
Congrats on your new bike. I have found that Fast Eddy Sports is a great source for all things Thunderbird. He has great prices and amazing service. I debated a fairing and went with a great big Cee Bailey shield on a quick release Triumph mount. You could also go with a National Switchblade shield. My thinking is that fairings, shields and bags really ruin the bike but they are needed. So if you can get a fast release you can remove them as conditions warrant. I have seen a Bird with the Corbin Contraband fairing and it looked OK. It's not cheap. Better save your money for rear tires :).

STAY AWAY FROM THE TRIUMPH LEATHER BAGS I had mine replaced twice on warranty and got lucky enough to sell them cheap. They leak and are not well made.


With Easy Brackets you could add some Hardstreets bags. I went with the Slimbags and they work great, don't leak and carry what I need.

I'm sure more folks will chime in.

I would call Fast Eddy and get his take on what's out there now.

 

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Posted : 13 May 2013 - 16:52   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: fishy)
 
my one complaint about the hardstreet, easybracket combo is that they stick out to far from the rear fender for me to give them a 10 out of 10 ranking but they do suit the bike and are very functional so i'd say about a 7 out of 10. you're right fishy bike looks loads better without a lot of stuff on it but if you want to travel on it what are you going to do

 
currently on a slow Harley but will have another Triumph eventually
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Posted : 13 May 2013 - 17:34   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: intimidator32)
 
Thanks guys... that is good info. Plan on trying to do some longer trips, but haven't been on a bike in 40 years up until a month ago when I bought a Honda Shadow 600cc to learn on again. All my friends that ride have Harley' or Victory's, but my original bike was a BSA Goldstar, (wish I still had that one ) so wanted to stay with a British bike and fell in love with the Thunderbird. Seen a used (33 miles) but new (2013) on-line at a dealership in Florida for 11,000.00 and figured with no dealer fees and only a $25 tax here in Illinois for a used bike I couldn't go wrong. (fortunately the title is still in the original owners name) Was hoping to put a nice fairing on to protect from the wind, but may have to settle for a screen. I appreciate any advise from those of you who have been there-done that before as it may save me a lot of grief.

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Posted : 13 May 2013 - 20:19   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 
Basa-the stock Roadster screen seems to be hated in general but the Cee Bailey Screen is a real wind stopper. Really too much when it's above 90 like today. For long hauls at high speeds I need a big honking screen and would just rather look crappy but feel good. I was out in Love Bugs last weekend and was so glad to have a big screen getting all slimy with thousands of copulating bugs and not my face shield.

I'm just not a fan of handle bar mounted fairing but I did check and Memphis Shades said one would fit on my 1600.



Another key to long distance comfort is a good seat. I was amazed at the Triumph Longhaul seat-came with my bike and really nice but I have tried the stock seat and it was uncomfortable. Corbin does make a nice seat but it does not work well (or used to not) work with the stock sissy bar/rack. That rack is the key to hauling tons of gear. Or a big top box but a sissy bar bag comes off the bike easily and goes in the hotel or tent with you.

Another thing I did to my bike was install great big lower and that helps block the wind greatly. If your looking for more wind in the face but block pressure you could go with a National Cycle Deflector on a quick mount and have a great big screen and a small one for around town or none when you wanted that.

It's a big comfortable bike that is very smooth and lots of useable power for long trips. Great gas mileage and amazing brakes. Stopping is more important than fast sometimes and this bike heavy as it is will stop.

There should be a rule that no one is allowed to ever sell any bike they have owned as we ALL say "I wish I still had that old beauty"

It's hard to be humble around your Victory and Harley friends but humility is a good virtue to have.


 

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Posted : 13 May 2013 - 20:30   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 
There are options but get ready to do a bit of homework. The easiest is a Tsukayu Dyna Small Batwing pictured. I've had mine since Sept 2011.

I find out after the fact that you could probably source a fairing for a sportster, dyna and it would work. Another option is change your headlight to the larger like the America and you may be able to source a Hoppe if they can give you certain dimensions. If that's more than you wish to deal with just get the Tsukayu small Batwing and you're good to go. Just change the fork clamps to Mephis Shades type . Corbin issues have been resolved but I personally see no value for such money. It's not detachable and no radio or room for one. You could just as easily look at the plain Memphis Shades Poly ones for $300. All you really need to know is the inside fairing diameter and compare to the outside of forks to see if all mounts. I would expect if I could make a Tsukayu work so would they.
I have Harley Classic bags that work for me and by all means DO stay away from Triumph bags.


Good luck.

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Posted : 13 May 2013 - 22:20   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: Jango)
 
Same Fairing as Jango's with a 15.5 Clearview Recurve vented shield.



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Posted : 14 May 2013 - 02:56   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: Jango)
 

Jango wrote:

There are options but get ready to do a bit of homework. The easiest is a Tsukayu Dyna Small Batwing pictured. I've had mine since Sept 2011.

I find out after the fact that you could probably source a fairing for a sportster, dyna and it would work. Another option is change your headlight to the larger like the America and you may be able to source a Hoppe if they can give you certain dimensions. If that's more than you wish to deal with just get the Tsukayu small Batwing and you're good to go. Just change the fork clamps to Mephis Shades type . Corbin issues have been resolved but I personally see no value for such money. It's not detachable and no radio or room for one. You could just as easily look at the plain Memphis Shades Poly ones for $300. All you really need to know is the inside fairing diameter and compare to the outside of forks to see if all mounts. I would expect if I could make a Tsukayu work so would they.
I have Harley Classic bags that work for me and by all means DO stay away from Triumph bags.


Good luck.


are they scythe mirrors and if so how are the. do the vibrate and are they out far enough to see behind you.

 

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Posted : 14 May 2013 - 03:59   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: fab)
 
The mirrors are Kuryakyn part # 1453 You can also get them with turn signal lights. I'm 6,2"and I can see my shoulders but still can see out of them as well as I did the stock. They would be better if an extra inch out. I like the ceaner look of the bars. I do get vibration increasing with speeds in excess of around 70 MPH The nice thing about the Tsukayu is that many 3 bolt Harley products will fit. One can put almost any 3 bolt Harley Windshield on. The problem is the contour is not as curved. I had to work the mirror arms and current windshield to get them to fit right. The Kury are cast and can break. In fact I have a hairline crack on one side but not noticable enough to warrant a change. The windshield in the photo is a 12.75 National. Tsukayu 10" had too much buffeting for me. I have a Split Stream now and will post a photo in a day or so.

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Posted : 14 May 2013 - 12:41   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: intimidator32)
 
Are you using the "hardstreet bags and easy bracket" as they really look good on both bikes.

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Posted : 14 May 2013 - 16:48   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 

basaint2 wrote:

Are you using the "hardstreet bags and easy bracket" as they really look good on both bikes.


yes, but the inside of the hard street slim bags are not as big as they seem due to the shock cutout

 
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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 01:02   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 
Check out leatherlyke.com. Just got mine.


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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 01:24   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: KSpider)
 
Did you get the CrossCountry bags that show on their website just for the Thunderbird and what type of hardware are you using?

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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 01:29   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 
Yes got the cross country. It comes with hardware. I'm getting the Triumph sissy bar and you use its spacers along with bag hardware.



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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 01:41   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: KSpider)
 
Great I'd like to see a picture when you get it mounted. Let me know how you like them after you get them installed and you've used them. Does the hardware allow for quick release?

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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 10:30   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 
Yes they are quick release. The mounting hardware are two thick bolts/rods that you insert through holes with rubber seals on the sides of the bags, inside two clips per bag secure the bags to the bolts/rods. So they come off quickly. The clips are secured to the bag with cords so you dont misplace them. I got mine from Leatherlyke on their current Ebay listing, the advantage of going through Ebay is they give free shipping. Enter the term Leatherlyke(oneword) and you will see a pic of the bags on a blue Tbird. He shows the bags on the bike with and without the Triumph quick release sissybar. You can zoom in on them. Inside the bags its lined up halfway with a waterproof foam insulation. They said you can use them to ice down drinks if you want. I will post some pics also when I get them mounted. They are also lockable with keyed locks, unlike the leather triumph bag. Will give you some peace of mind when stopping for a break that no one will run off with your laptop or other stuff. Never understood why Triumph didnt offer hard bags since you can get them on the Rocket and the new Trophy. As a side note I asked leatherlyke if my bike paint shop can paint them to match the bike and he told me they can be painted if you want to. I have the Crystal white over sapphire blue Tbird. Its a real great color combo, get praises on it everywhere I stop. Reminds me of a 60's California Surf retro color. If I can decide on the color combo to paint the bag it has the potential to really compliment the bike. Looking at windvest windshields also instead of the Triumph Roadster shield. Seen some people on this board not to happy with the Triumphs windshield. They are a little pricey though for the 16 x 16 model. Had the bike going on a year now and love it. Slowly starting to customize it. Just installed a speedo visor I got from Bikebandit.com, got a Triumph powerport from them also and will install that this weekend. Sorry didnt mean to run on at the mouth. I'll blame it on the Tbird PS thinking about the bigbore kit also but even at 1600 stock the bike rocks.

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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 20:40   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: KSpider)
 



Recently installed the Tsukayu fairing with 5in. tinted wind screen.

 
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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 21:12   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: Habuba)
 
Does the 5" screen keep enough wind off? I am 6' tall and have never rode with a wind screen but at almost 62 years old I need something as I get too fatigued fighting the wind. I really appreciate everyone's input, beats making multiple mistakes.

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Posted : 17 May 2013 - 23:09   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: basaint2)
 
I have whats called the curvy windshield, which helps flip the air flow over your head, Link I like looking over the shield, plus I'm only 5' 7", with your height I would go with a 8" or 10" windshield, depending on your preference. I do have some turbulence, with air coming around the tank.

 
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Posted : 02 Jul 2013 - 11:01   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: Habuba)
 
I thought that I should throw this picture out there many to piss off the anti fairing crowd and to say I really like this corbin contraband thing!
[URL=http://s73.photobucket.com/user/mmillspaw/media/IMG_0590_zps03968dd3.jpg.html][IMG]Link
I am not using the windscreen for the warmer weather/ short trips but I have a 13 inch windvest that blocks good and I can still see over.
without a shield the wind is off my chest and I get no buffeting (although my helment is totally in the wind)

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Posted : 02 Jul 2013 - 11:45   Post title : Re: Question for all those with the Tsukayu fairing
 
Question for all you guys with the Tsukayu fairing.
Can the Triumph driving light kit be installed with it.
Will the lights clear the fairing?
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Posted : 02 Jul 2013 - 11:46   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: mag10)
 

mag10 wrote:

I thought that I should throw this picture out there many to piss off the anti fairing crowd and to say I really like this thing!
[URL=http://s73.photobucket.com/user/mmillspaw/media/IMG_0590_zps03968dd3.jpg.html][IMG]Link
I am not using the windscreen for the warmer weather/ short trips but I have a 13 inch windvest that blocks good and I can still see over.
without a shield the wind is off my chest and I get no buffeting (although my helment is totally in the wind)




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Posted : 02 Jul 2013 - 17:37   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: SeanS)
 
you talkin' to me?



Well next year Harleys will look like Thunderbirds when they go to Water Cooling so I guess Thunderbirds can look like Road Glides?

I wish there was some unique fairing for the Bird, maybe a big Cafe Racer type like the BMW R90S? When I go out riding all I seem to see are batwing fairing bikes in black.

Birds with Batwings

 

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Posted : 03 Jul 2013 - 03:50   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: KSpider)
 
I realize that style is subjective, with each to his own and all, but having just looked at the LeatherLyke bags, they look like leather covered ammo boxes to me. They just kill the good lines of the Thunderbird, IMHO. When it comes to motorcycles, form drives function for me, and accessories must look as good as the machine their hanging on. I have yet to see any hard bags or fairings that look right on the Tbird. At least for me, the factory leather bags look pretty good, even with their known shortcomings. So I stuck with mine and had their sagging asses fixed by the good folks at Leather Lid Inserts for $150 US and added the Eazy Brackets to make mine QR. I'll post some pics under a separate thread for all you riders still using them. Here's the link to Leather Lid Inserts, for what it's worth.

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Posted : 03 Jul 2013 - 15:03   Post title : Re: fairing and hard bags (Re: fishy)
 
fishy wrote:
Well next year Harleys will look like Thunderbirds when they go to Water Cooling so I guess Thunderbirds can look like Road Glides?

I wish there was some unique fairing for the Bird, maybe a big Cafe Racer type like the BMW R90S? When I go out riding all I seem to see are batwing fairing bikes in black.


I agree. Some designer creativity is definitely in order. Victory, love 'em or hate 'em, has definitely gone outside the box with their bagger design. It works for them IMO since it works with the overall design of the bike. Triumph could do the same by incorporating existing design cues into their bagger. I guess time will tell.

 
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