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| | | fasteddy | | Chaac |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/10/2008 | | Posts | : | 963 | | Location | : | Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 03:08 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: mjgt) | | | Going to be carrying standard white for a little while and the black base.
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| | | Fordster | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 365 | | Location | : | Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 04:22 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: fasteddy) | | | Hey Eddy, I see the Canadian price is $0.00!! I'll take 50 of them!
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| | | fasteddy | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/10/2008 | | Posts | : | 963 | | Location | : | Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Feb 2012 - 20:32 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Fordster) | | | I am still waiting for my order to come in, someone wiped them out! They tell me 5 days from today. When I get them in then I'll do an accurate calculation.
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| | | Ultimate38 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/01/2010 | | Posts | : | 134 | | Location | : | Albany, NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 May 2012 - 08:48 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? | | | May be a stupid question, but... 
Most of (if not all) of the pictures showing the oil pressure gauge on the bird, on this one or other threads, show it on the right side.
Is there a technical reason to have the oil pressure gauge fitted on the right side ?
Like to not have oil going "down inside the gauge" ?
Or juts a more easy access when the bike is on its stand ?
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Previous 2009 1600 Tbird/KN Air filter/Hog Slayer exhaust/Brian Custom saddle/Oil pressure gauge/oil temperature/Horse saddleback.
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| | | lockey | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 07/10/2011 | | Posts | : | 189 | | Location | : | lyme regis, dorset, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 27 May 2012 - 15:46 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Ultimate38) | | | I think it is just easer to see, as it protrudes a little further out on the right side.
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| | | Nashville | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 08/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 98 | | Location | : | Zuerich, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 09:26 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? | | | Hi all
I'd really love to have the following one on my bird:
White display and a chrome body.
As Birdy wants one too; maybe we can collect our order to save delivery expenses (yes, there's a lot of Scottish blood in me  ).
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| | | TBRider | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 21/10/2011 | | Posts | : | 834 | | Location | : | Foothills, The Mountains, United States |
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| | Posted : 28 May 2012 - 18:07 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Ultimate38) | | | It can be mounted on either side as mentioned earlier in the thread.
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 29 May 2012 - 09:16 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Nashville) | | | I first was for a Marshall's mechanical gauge - then I went (and bought) a SMITHS dual Pressure & Temperature gauge - and NOW I'm going back to either the Marshall's or an electronic gauge getting the info/pressure directly from the oil pressure sender under the 'Bird!
Honestly said - I'm for a mechanical Marshall's gauge - Chrome housing and black face.
BUT - first thing first - get to ride her after 7 months of being away!!!
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| | | Nashville | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 08/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 98 | | Location | : | Zuerich, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 29 May 2012 - 12:47 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Birdy68) | | | Why do you changed from SMITHS back to Marshall? Wondering... 
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| | | Birdy68 | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 29 May 2012 - 14:15 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Nashville) | | | It's a mixture of things...
One 'issue' was the fact that the temperature 'sensor' has to be wired/installed into the system (drill hole/split pipe) ~ and the sensor is NOT small!!! The gauge is actually for motorcars - so you can imagine. Put it this way - you couldn't fit it into the hard piping under the tank - that pipe was nearly as big as the sensor! So there's only a couple of hose tubing that is available for you to 'hack into'...
Then - the temperature gauge goes up to 110 or was it 120 ... either way - I remember thinking that the 'Bird's cooling fan kicks in at 106 *C which was a nats hair away from the limit of the gauge.
Then - the oil pressure also was a tricky (not straight forward) issue due to the fact that the gauge was fully UK thread standard and was not so easy for me over here in Switzerland. If I'm not mistaken the fittings are tapered UK threads whereas here in Switzerland and Germany it's more of a flat thread. So there again ~ I was needing 'extra' service.
So at the end of the day I started to think, "Bugger it!" and just go with the single Marshall gauge running from a T junction from the Oil Pressure switch under the 'Bird.
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| | | TBRider | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/10/2011 | | Posts | : | 834 | | Location | : | Foothills, The Mountains, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 May 2012 - 17:24 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Birdy68) | | |
Birdy68 wrote:
It's a mixture of things...
One 'issue' was the fact that the temperature 'sensor' has to be wired/installed into the system (drill hole/split pipe) ~ and the sensor is NOT small!!! The gauge is actually for motorcars - so you can imagine. Put it this way - you couldn't fit it into the hard piping under the tank - that pipe was nearly as big as the sensor! So there's only a couple of hose tubing that is available for you to 'hack into'...
Then - the temperature gauge goes up to 110 or was it 120 ... either way - I remember thinking that the 'Bird's cooling fan kicks in at 106 *C which was a nats hair away from the limit of the gauge.
Then - the oil pressure also was a tricky (not straight forward) issue due to the fact that the gauge was fully UK thread standard and was not so easy for me over here in Switzerland. If I'm not mistaken the fittings are tapered UK threads whereas here in Switzerland and Germany it's more of a flat thread. So there again ~ I was needing 'extra' service.
So at the end of the day I started to think, "Bugger it!" and just go with the single Marshall gauge running from a T junction from the Oil Pressure switch under the 'Bird.
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Birdy, actually you'll get no better reading from the oil pressure switch. I've already done this. It was within 1 psi of the oil journal. Accurate pressure readings isn't really the goal. The gauge is there to demonstrate actual pressure in the system and to ensure the pump is actually operating. The gauge readings are secondary but are quite accurate to say the least.
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| | | Nashville | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 08/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 98 | | Location | : | Zuerich, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 29 May 2012 - 20:26 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: TBRider) | | | | ... Accurate pressure readings isn't really the goal... |
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Pardon? If I spend some time and money I would expect to have a useful information from a device.
Nice looking is a side effect but if it's for show only, I'd rather mount a turbo patch on my front glass. 
Greets
Derek
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| | | DC13 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 347 | | Location | : | Westbrook , Maine, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 May 2012 - 13:12 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Nashville) | | | I think he was just saying its more of a pass/fail situation, a few PSI isnt going to matter. Not just for show, just not for pinpoint readings.
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| | | TBRider | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/10/2011 | | Posts | : | 834 | | Location | : | Foothills, The Mountains, United States |
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| | Posted : 30 May 2012 - 18:03 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: DC13) | | | Thanks DC, that's absolutely correct. The PSI readings themselves are relative. If you have no pressure and a pump failure, you're not going to have no reading what-so-ever. If it drops to zero while your riding under throttle, you've got a problem and can quickly shut down, well before any idiot light will display and before any catastrophic damage occurs.
Although, the readings of the gauge are very accurate.
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| | | Nashville | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 08/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 98 | | Location | : | Zuerich, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 30 May 2012 - 21:11 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: TBRider) | | | Okidokie
Would love to have a white display and a chrome body!
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| | | Snyperx | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2015 | | Posts | : | 175 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 06 Oct 2016 - 19:28 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Nashville) | | | Sorry for the thread rebirth. I am looking at getting one of the Joker gauges for my 2012 Tbird, but can't frickin decide on the gauge color.
Black body, Chrome housing, White face
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Block Body, Chrome housing, Black face
Thoughts???
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| | | Snyperx | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/10/2015 | | Posts | : | 175 | | Location | : | Madison, Wisconsin, United States |
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| | Posted : 06 Oct 2016 - 19:34 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Snyperx) | | |
Snyperx wrote:
Sorry for the thread rebirth. I am looking at getting one of the Joker gauges for my 2012 Tbird, but can't frickin decide on the gauge color.
Black body, Chrome housing, White face
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Block Body, Chrome housing, Black face
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Bah, ordered the black body, chrome housing, and black face version. Should look sharp.....I hope.
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,661 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 07 Oct 2016 - 14:44 Post title : Re: Position of the Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Snyperx) | | | I got mine all black from Fast Eddie.
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| | | DangerMouse | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/03/2016 | | Posts | : | 546 | | Location | : | South East, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 15 Oct 2016 - 15:50 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: TBRider) | | | I don't get the point of an oil pressure guage on a modern production motorcycle, by the time you've noticed the guage is low it probably would have blown up anyway. All you're doing is providing a point for a serious oil leak which could wreck your motor.
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| | | edmontonstorm | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 1,054 | | Location | : | Alberta, Canada |
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| | Posted : 15 Oct 2016 - 16:39 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: DangerMouse) | | |
DangerMouse wrote:
I don't get the point of an oil pressure guage on a modern production motorcycle, by the time you've noticed the guage is low it probably would have blown up anyway. All you're doing is providing a point for a serious oil leak which could wreck your motor. |
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i disagree you can see fluctuations in oil pressure that might not be "usual" and be alerted long before the light on the bike comes on. Flawless? no but an extra something. I just wish they had a temp one for the other side.
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,661 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 15 Oct 2016 - 17:49 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: edmontonstorm) | | |
edmontonstorm wrote:
DangerMouse wrote:
I don't get the point of an oil pressure guage on a modern production motorcycle, by the time you've noticed the guage is low it probably would have blown up anyway. All you're doing is providing a point for a serious oil leak which could wreck your motor. |
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i disagree you can see fluctuations in oil pressure that might not be "usual" and be alerted long before the light on the bike comes on. Flawless? no but an extra something. I just wish they had a temp one for the other side. |
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| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,661 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 15 Oct 2016 - 17:51 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: DangerMouse) | | |
DangerMouse wrote:
I don't get the point of an oil pressure guage on a modern production motorcycle, by the time you've noticed the guage is low it probably would have blown up anyway. All you're doing is providing a point for a serious oil leak which could wreck your motor. |
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It's not alwayes about common sense.
Sometimes it's just a cool gadget, need to have.
| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | Hornet | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Apr 2017 - 17:10 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: TBRider) | | |
TBRider wrote:
I know you weren't.
3-5 psi, is what you'd expect even without a gauge. I was trying to explain the differences and why. The bike isn't designed to run at anything above 6 psi @ idle anyway, no matter what the gauge reads. Even at the filter, it didn't run anymore than 5 psi before the gauge installation. So the gauges aren't far off if at all.
It's not my conversion and I don't take credit for it at all. It's Joker Machines, I just figured out it works perfectly for the T-Birds.
Anyway, it's a outstanding unit and another option available, for those who don't want to go the way you did.
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Gentlemen, can I ask the following. With the Joker machine unit installed what should the:
PSI read at Idle "cold"
PSI read at Idle "warm"
PSI read at 3500 rpm "warm"
Per the Service manual page 1.34 it states all models, Oil Pressure (in the main gallery) 3.00-3.60 bar at 3,500 rpm
I found this quote below in this thread as well. So all the info is a little unclear
"Since the idle motor running temp is at 4-6psi 3,500rpm50-55psi" ??
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| | | Slcharger | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/02/2016 | | Posts | : | 1,661 | | Location | : | Denmark |
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| | Posted : 17 Apr 2017 - 17:24 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Hornet) | | |
Hornet wrote:
TBRider wrote:
I know you weren't.
3-5 psi, is what you'd expect even without a gauge. I was trying to explain the differences and why. The bike isn't designed to run at anything above 6 psi @ idle anyway, no matter what the gauge reads. Even at the filter, it didn't run anymore than 5 psi before the gauge installation. So the gauges aren't far off if at all.
It's not my conversion and I don't take credit for it at all. It's Joker Machines, I just figured out it works perfectly for the T-Birds.
Anyway, it's a outstanding unit and another option available, for those who don't want to go the way you did.
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Gentlemen, can I ask the following. With the Joker machine unit installed what should the:
PSI read at Idle "cold"
PSI read at Idle "warm"
PSI read at 3500 rpm "warm"
Per the Service manual page 1.34 it states all models, Oil Pressure (in the main gallery) 3.00-3.60 bar at 3,500 rpm
I found this quote below in this thread as well. So all the info is a little unclear
"Since the idle motor running temp is at 4-6psi 3,500rpm50-55psi" ??
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When warm, it runs between 2-4 psi, in idle, and around 50 psi at 3500 rpm., taken that you run the recommended oil. 
Mine is higher, but i do things that others don't approve.
| Big Bird, Bordeaux with " Celtic theme " Airbrush, 2010, 1700CC, ABS, 65.000 km. Lowered with Nitros rear shocks, Linear front springs, Burchard forward footrest kit, Kuryakyn ISO grips, LOTS of chrome, SLcharger REV2+ tune, Modified Cee Baileys windshield, Oil pressure gauge, Air box elimination kit, Portet cylinderhead, Intake cam advanved 8 degree, Exhaust cam retarded 2 degree, 10.5 C/R, Knock sensor, Machined flywheel, DNA Chrome Spoke wheels, 18x8.5"- AVON AV72- 240/40/18, 21x3.5"- AVON AV71- 120/70/21, Corbin seat with backrest, 20W fork oil. Hiflo HF303RC oil filter, Penrite Racing 20-20W60 engine oil, Adjurl lights.
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| | | Hornet | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Apr 2017 - 18:05 Post title : Re: When is Somebody going to do a Oil Pressure Gauge Kit??? (Re: Slcharger) | | |
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